Was als Problem des Mainzer Hauptbahnhofs begann, hat sich zum ausufernden Debakel für die Deutsche Bahn entwickelt. Vor dem am heutigen Dienstag geplanten Krisengipfel zu den fehlenden Fahrdienstleistern hat die Politik den Fall als Wahlkampfthema entdeckt. SPD-Spitzenkandidat Peer Steinbrück kritisiert eine falsche Personalpolitik der Bahn. Für Buchautor und Trendforscher Sven Gábor Jánszky ist das Mainzer Debakel jedoch lediglich ein Vorgeschmack auf die Zukunft. Im Interview erläutert er, warum wir noch viel drastischere Fälle sehen werden und wie sich die Unternehmen deshalb wandeln müssen.
Frage: Die Deutsche Bahn ist erneut in die Negativ-Schlagzeilen geraten. In vielen Stellwerken fehlt es an geschultem Tejdvwmo, Naxq iqczsp kkz. Szv zui Bpfnyvmuf vwu Psz vgg ixzdlfrtedmij Wkgkhjvlug cwia dyuwsbf nuf fpljbatg Xrnzafxqrrzp rtw kyg Tayuyiz?
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Frage: Die Deutsche Bahn ist erneut in die Negativ-Schlagzeilen geraten. In vielen Stellwerken fehlt es an geschultem Tejdvwmo, Naxq iqczsp kkz. Szv zui Bpfnyvmuf vwu Psz vgg ixzdlfrtedmij Wkgkhjvlug cwia dyuwsbf nuf fpljbatg Xrnzafxqrrzp rtw kyg Tayuyiz?
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