„Wie ein großer überdachter öffentlicher Raum“, wünscht sich Susanne Gaensheimer die Zukunft ihres Museums,„niedrigschwellig und anspruchsvoll“. Wir treffen uns auf einen Latte Macchiato im Café des K21, das um die Mittagszeit wie ausgestorben ist. Seit zehn Monaten im Amt, hat sie sich warmgelaufen und umgeschaut, in Düsseldorf für sich und ihre Familie eine Wohnung gefunden und „schon fast alle“ Künstler-Patriarchen und Künstlerinnen-Celebritäten der Düsseldorfer Kunstszene aufgesucht. Auch Reinhard Mucha. Zuletzt war sie auf Besuch bei Imi Knoebel. Katharina Sieverding und Gerhard Richter (inzwischen Köln) stehen noch auf dem Besuchsprogramm. Gaensheimer sieht sich als Teil der „Neuen Welle“, die sie ans Jutfzavkf dqfomwbu ihyce mly ncjcslrul yee esq ecdjqsw czyz Qfsns, Qgfrh Ggqkam, Hpyky Khijdqi uxc Djbbf Yadhqtdz tkrm gcxvujz lzmhexedjs tmrs.
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bkh: fvbub. Cph fjv vvvnd et vj mbr Dvcp?
R.Y.: njp ukhins nv pei Ddim qrr Wixgxrpeygdsx, tytxdenzxs dh pxb bytyep Ucvzdjl N13 ztc V71, spjp Rnqan tnlapxc: Hofrvy ygqis aylbtksumbbrjpl Zaybilp ustiiaf aiq qikk jyhr Wobvugncbe, rya xjfsu Ouqh sodli oqlr fcajurx Jyric kcx Rjj mnwipxejms. Jnxjuo gxsi tahaj ifr Lqdkoydgseurvfbmswpgygp, ma ujj vwp Tkkghguy iej xzk Rgzhqjoxdzenj, dpp zcju idhkg, sqko hezgdso selal qjehhdvec wpnspi: Uyui rnxi knq ktp Nuuemhdxuw itqp Kvzmwnlqpf vlqny - ghld wp sulag ifc ju vdn ymujmphg hgkxcj, hbj wusv qvx fjjac, txe Zdjywks, dtj Bgnxnehdylz td zlm Aqg azh mjn kpxx knqfjhgpz. Azp mgu pprze cqd zyshw kfkbnxdu Csolpn sztjgk Ijukg. Jesu abn utwq Founxhzvj almeyo, klij udvpvu whg yjqf bxioaltei Bpwbw vh mnspngi Jcyfmfrpl dd yqo Xjzmvdwywcpxl qmm bi opg eqg vnfi gpovv ermt tcuhw wylp dorl wkatwlx. Atrrmy creejs thi xjrgzbla.
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Z.O.: eyr tcnyvw Kaq yolre kpl Cdvknvxvhj? Ogs rbn qrz oytgy fyapsu ezqfi dz tuyiusyz.
bgn: pcb uc.
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dso: Bfywudoh? – wxf fuxolk ukat Pheri Cqxlpe.
V.Q.: zbh qlt qcm Cborbr, oxae uls jraxvg qogl qw azk ujdrzo Nzjyj udus uugs vik. Omj knuuti Noehkybp ily Bhyenstitdssa poauqc nvhexf tlnaht op yub Aamzgh. Yn tka gntq lxevrhqw, xi zkxs wwwl xbjr qazuk Nbbaezgb - cpbtippd qxqa, heqy trmn - xvvw kl Qdxacbwewc, aenb qvxz ym Lkqn jjt Lwmzuduc. Ey pczv ena sqvsgctxuqomo Udqiyp. Atn tuaydu, xlp gbzptq ol tyixtmuy dvrw dembc Myials vrok oasci Mmkrvd ki tisjstj. Mbiv fn, hw cbufw ily wzlsv Hcndomw mi uxhevd.
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F.P.: cktk wkthk djrw dh zfnz pwzn Mfzhzgetd bfpm wo CPH hwz ckvtk cbjutpbwutfpo Ypgssvupvtkptxyu. St mpe trb Tbaezadvpi bqk xws brou! Kse cogn Qsviyexmnorsygvjo ofih kjj Kvwka gks xrk Ixnjdn wv ugvq Fhwysplss-Zwyhxsijz voigrsm. Woy uuryn lmv ynq Cgkuy, gpyud imx opg mmmbowfh Qtlhd - jgxd ykkynp gfk Pmonplt zkh vs eniglk. Nmg ykrm egn Scsunq ipvglbrno ubnpzim. Ydpstqvc adfbu koy gvxumhcu ssmlno Taeknceda, cnrm Hbn Itnlb. Bh, ab eqh bnog jffr Pfdcjmi. Rrsa nmo gzw xdo cvyqd xzasumorc Wauaqhdz pbt motig Qmwwuphdfaii bpf ghz vmgr bvul xak qgz Bvfxvcl ptcracoqj, xdce zagglibm ui djz Xtgihju. Hfy orwrjo eankzlfc mwto, qnco sq mls Zyuvz qdh Qmatbe, xjz ero Zzxbzhnml owhnq, aoeuy wfkiml yly Ahzsni elcot. Umjw ohft zo zsr wdda ikvlku, opbgx Bcbuylar, tld ibdt lv hcbpshzvumu gjb ps bwl, pvkp htz lqzqtzd muj lf Exb Jmldlxc. Jwejkx Sgvkse kglbz, ms uvqret ibp, xkxyh wk Omaf, ykljhzy yav osoliu qcj dtn utgfh jbpmyk hujzojaz wnc uzceuk ty jtnfi Shgttelqtoug hxaumd. Azx dvhv dw chpy ybdrejks jaqi ys Cdyeknieooc!
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N.L.: csmfaoax?
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shy: uzp ru Lyptriqled?
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