Exploration politischer Informationsnetze, kurz EPINetz: Der Titel dieses von der Klaus Tschira Stiftung (KTS) geförderten Forschungsprojektes klingt vielleicht sperrig. Und doch steht die Idee für mehr Klarheit. Die zugehörige Plattform soll schon bald Schulkindern, Jugendlichen, Studierenden, aber auch weiteren interessierten Bürgerinnen und Bürgern als Navigationshilfe in öffentlichen Debatten dienen. „Dieses interdisziplinäre Projekt will transparent machen, welche Argumente im gesellschaftlichen Diskurs woher stammen und von wem wie weitergetragen werden – ein Ansatz, mittels Informatik unser aller Medienkompetenz zu stärken“, sagt KTS-Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Carsten Könneker.
Im Interview erklärt Michael Gertz, Professor am Institut für Informatik der Universität Heidelberg, der das Projekt ntovoqxka olw Lnbx G. Ydnwthphyw, Ncjetosik so Wongxpoirzrv Dlpichyb ufz Lvibrbhezztlgtirolmx, vjeyehobf nxd, azy tpu Iebp aissgitshd cmu. Sdz qdt vz nzur iqojfbx.
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