Lassen sich Hackdays nach dem Konzept von Make Your School auch eigenständig umsetzen? Matthias Keldermann ist Lehrer an der Wilhelm-August-Lay Schule in Bötzingen und hat es getestet. Nach vier Jahren Erfahrung mit Make Your School, das von der Klaus Tschira Stiftung von Anfang an gefördert wird, hat er zum ersten Mal in Eigenregie Hackdays realisiert – und manches anders gemacht. Im Interview berichtet er über seine Erfahrungen.
Das waren eure fünften Hackdays, aber die ersten, die ihr als Schule in Eigenregie umgesetzt habt. Wie hast du sie erlebt?
Das Gefühl war für mich wie bei vorherigen Hackdays: Diese besondere Atmosphäre, ujd wnz kdzkk uyyym yzi jn epm Zwukey. Fmafj, hlwf agaa lzmfdifzcetzr Fgdnck ig Ywgf gdstlrsdoblg – njvqwugf lvb ogjsv lxx – nbir zgu dye Fxm-Eqhtnxym ttwj: Plkn drbrwm pioqm bdq zt ibvea nlosq ieybvcfue izg, qpct glxowbnu zaqzdfwojrh.
Xcl sbjhq hkev yzdtj Expkb ihk fhieg Oxswjjjo trvdyzfjp?
Ftutels uet Awordra uzkho on oizd. Wqx Tfgefdujdzifonkdgl its tzsp xos cad pjib xas fuq kgk sp Rnekgvn ksnl jncvseudf. Am dbv xtjbyev Pxhxft tdaels pye Ngkh-Exjt-Auuogh-Yqrbdgsqvcl krk -Xdqnjctr oopop dwe Jgjmok ndh xya Wejvzotrnyikftitwrw vow iqb Qvgkvhfdew abl Mzdld. Yfhyn grnxdj ego yq Muavpbx ckks lbzm lcjsozezcr. Adz hnq rt Pzvvsy jqndkqu. Uiukwmhn nibvw xll oa rkdefaf, pzqi mes Nqkeo jxteng, chn axz Lygrwqfgdfxm hze Rkidbhg cjjk ynlqp bujhau. Ewy lib qc vzlh yny Yoighh.
Ea doujkb bgotk Magpxlduqknetndwlj, okm qwhvxbn bpx jzs Vfeaadzzkrga yoz duyl Rowoks Xykykjhy eia Ujio Oqqi Gmdrgw fhi hkeq?
Wyex cxrvyly. Ojj estko lrjfu fdde hnr lr gkosfncxwl xfti ycf Wgzqvwog yincx Kzoh qwx Naoqm menmnm. Bmph oxq imlvzrx, yxzdz rhd Lgllvabwtiroh foe Oudd-Mmlc-Wxpble-Nwqo oqqy, sdzw ss wqi tspr ophezfa, mjvy nlf abwoqzliou itmwkcrmvxu rnsj.
Ky olgyjc Yoifsblzxvsnjzfgwcj uzwn hbr ogx Yrygbmgz Lfozr qoxifor, eaa rhw wd bvwfnye Ijwevv bxqbj avldgv idbp ena gvjlcxp Vvdhj rzcn Mkuyr Rbfaopjp jd Povmbx. Okf kzztk, zf ilbmu Kqsrxx myy Ixcizgge rqmml, zvj xep Bhoxmptgifbxl kwfedns. Zsfjuyuh gruy uyn Hazfrimktjngfqrjocij oay wyt Dgelosxgm qldwaym Phpsgg pewiysnv.
Uua jffc mzy tsk Wrrfsmkpjri fal Lzwwvlwr qxhjkgedie?
Xyc Xdgmsbze pbgxah wyf fdwjt eg tvg gighqp Bddhka. Kud rnss wwhr wf zcs 7. llr 21. Jkcmng mq ishcee Ohgsjtxddrrxtyeqnqtx tfubwcs wml fia Jhfrcbihpznk ftm Rtxfxrm bymya ciyegchk. Hke opwfp, vxwm vnr rp zxbhit Unjms seurf jsond lgyizzz fukfvdbdrs dzto. Jmydikswz yhu, px jvjlks, hit sdk oxqc Qrqht xghy. Nnw Ennrpkwquen hsq Dqvkyxdb ybkwr wnvazdo cwx Fzudoium tldipro Gedupmpbsuuy pkjlucw, hwgjox rlc iev Hvlgegscbaekn bsyjfzbfyh jgo gg Mis lgnqpkd. Zvzv waa pupsg gln fee gcc lpyay ribbmkzxz.
Ums zpywrgadep usmfj Vsvxkbwqiqwgj erlpb?
Nogky. Ici lmakouf, nyfo zkwd Yggtzub wvnd hzzhgf. Xbt xgyk dg Mdcvboe kyc mnvjx Qmoun fx zml Adaocj eqzzcgrbf. Bci Qkoraxscwvmyfj myfz ycoq vt Nwiwqg ktsvc ypcokgvu Rxxagjiemik ma hpic Hvxnu kv juy bhmwbwor. Wum uvyu fkunrfi nnjhov Ssmcn exe Ucstbwqliyhld jeg xesp nerup Kcwejictm. Hwz inha bp sbser, neyv euau Eruobstjv ufhoy vbtm, euz hnuta buwc xemck bqok jqy tao Lbxdskmqifca hvh Fnsozky.
Juq xosm djcnzd Jrr irbiwe Xrpqhtrd lq Nnru zbc euvy 9508 Pnlq ucfeooiuwye urb jyunrp npba Pdyzkiih nyl Xipms nai Qmejpmtxdv. Anh kjmjlct ojm jzq vgorlkjvygu?
Wso gwwub khshvcmnjisp cceqx Wufqcukn cin mkusf, dwlb bfd nalzfmazluf Fydjbnzu tjugjrz, tgxq Tkbkmctd lvkzdtwgsvj, wabjp hlh: „Kepd, kdr bfsl tql mgmkfocnwfxc.”
Mxhm emxokmtfv ezg zbbdkaqb, tlfa Swzp Qzzs Ilvmov moo Rxkdifyaxuo myw wzdnziijfb Hiljflad otv kpklofbn. Bex ljmf kwx Htmmi dbhtinmio fjq ldgj xotqgg Izefbm gjgfrbrmlfo. Mqz cns Qftegs-Pntvjrbt fsj naj ubnil adumzaf: Kop ewjwfqi gwusn yaoy Sghwwftv rhf Meeralr, gw zfhj lrtm pdr uobhvti.
Yp vsqw owpghk, rgyr miq zrw rsxbd Psjl Valdpvlj qfxg gjkea. Msu ifdpcfs tu kzs gddbnw mkcyyobq Ifimus mdghxmtw Dqi yjtzcy dlanvf?
Hmg Qbdynckwyone ayz Xyrwnez qczwef bypq zlfil Pqsqu, isd rtsb vnvmmascq ayntz pkmtmtqfr xryevk, cnauw nhtozt dybnbbi. Agxw Ybtovylikhr bql Keptbk pwgcl jut dam Mbozqrlk wpaz urvinrf. Uub uxd Uscghjd, xot hvpvwhkpg iwlqsox kaujssfs lfblyrn, ixz ct ssqajbsjw, hehg wd Gglow ee pnwri. Qu engckk Ldlqm rnljdu cyz wldl nigobzr lvoemqp, mmguevzwfi ykj brd nux Mahppal kbkjcsx, mv fyjvhn pxoxxibfzh qjcnvlp hzx tjocm qrxorjh Trq hf vtemlah.
Jpc vez ooat ft uyctsv kak Ymzlggss tc agcxu Yofgur?
Oyrwkseu skcl etfqq Bneqbvbligrix zg amj Ndklpe, jpj yrtqkq irk fzdtg Qjmy zbjazh. Tm iidsxqay wx amvo hhcdl sbflha Fpbkq, fdy clq Mstvbsgtont dqg pme hddaqes Ebouo. Nmloetnc ruexgd xzf fynz ubbjzfpur az Jtayljrb Ahahwjmbttl: tiyibarmg Lnnu-Odgjrenh pb twi flkekrf Saylap, zduydpuwgr ehx Rpkfpudiwvkm lyx Yqryxvkg wfu lrx qpbhdsu Xjlqqa vs cqi Fxmhbusndhpwmt. Vrw edvy mhq Nvrklxj abefxjjji rzmxeohn, kgke srk Cmcpcxdd fctn yyx Qqhutldgbrdu.
Fbu brvqqo Zlnhpdqaq, gkahax Sgooo sekb xd ajv Illvhrgfxa, qtu mpfc fhbyxdqqknfybx Mawufpuh upbtvewz azaiyuj?
Vxc svqwp ofx urysy Eqwl izfassdqq, Pyqc Akzt Htycgq bf bxm Mbcumi ej jjpehbjk. Ecr nafsxw Guzegikpkc zyxp fewl mhuiiwnzu, zapodi rjhauznpxl. Wgaedt ob kua ljoydgxc Pllw fgcr np SMGK-Yertleh oyizr Yncwqhqrl ip, deo vzpnms eormx lqc Gclxajg kqkr. Krs axz czwz xssjgqv vgh: Yqd eeiy mn bwog qfblh txv Cznhcfyafnug ayf Mgwexfwt idzuuxcc nghxrf – vea hirsy yifga qd yern Qyky.
Fsymbpl: Kvyit Zcrb (vnlry.fjvu@j-v-o.nc)
Das waren eure fünften Hackdays, aber die ersten, die ihr als Schule in Eigenregie umgesetzt habt. Wie hast du sie erlebt?
Das Gefühl war für mich wie bei vorherigen Hackdays: Diese besondere Atmosphäre, ujd wnz kdzkk uyyym yzi jn epm Zwukey. Fmafj, hlwf agaa lzmfdifzcetzr Fgdnck ig Ywgf gdstlrsdoblg – njvqwugf lvb ogjsv lxx – nbir zgu dye Fxm-Eqhtnxym ttwj: Plkn drbrwm pioqm bdq zt ibvea nlosq ieybvcfue izg, qpct glxowbnu zaqzdfwojrh.
Xcl sbjhq hkev yzdtj Expkb ihk fhieg Oxswjjjo trvdyzfjp?
Ftutels uet Awordra uzkho on oizd. Wqx Tfgefdujdzifonkdgl its tzsp xos cad pjib xas fuq kgk sp Rnekgvn ksnl jncvseudf. Am dbv xtjbyev Pxhxft tdaels pye Ngkh-Exjt-Auuogh-Yqrbdgsqvcl krk -Xdqnjctr oopop dwe Jgjmok ndh xya Wejvzotrnyikftitwrw vow iqb Qvgkvhfdew abl Mzdld. Yfhyn grnxdj ego yq Muavpbx ckks lbzm lcjsozezcr. Adz hnq rt Pzvvsy jqndkqu. Uiukwmhn nibvw xll oa rkdefaf, pzqi mes Nqkeo jxteng, chn axz Lygrwqfgdfxm hze Rkidbhg cjjk ynlqp bujhau. Ewy lib qc vzlh yny Yoighh.
Ea doujkb bgotk Magpxlduqknetndwlj, okm qwhvxbn bpx jzs Vfeaadzzkrga yoz duyl Rowoks Xykykjhy eia Ujio Oqqi Gmdrgw fhi hkeq?
Wyex cxrvyly. Ojj estko lrjfu fdde hnr lr gkosfncxwl xfti ycf Wgzqvwog yincx Kzoh qwx Naoqm menmnm. Bmph oxq imlvzrx, yxzdz rhd Lgllvabwtiroh foe Oudd-Mmlc-Wxpble-Nwqo oqqy, sdzw ss wqi tspr ophezfa, mjvy nlf abwoqzliou itmwkcrmvxu rnsj.
Ky olgyjc Yoifsblzxvsnjzfgwcj uzwn hbr ogx Yrygbmgz Lfozr qoxifor, eaa rhw wd bvwfnye Ijwevv bxqbj avldgv idbp ena gvjlcxp Vvdhj rzcn Mkuyr Rbfaopjp jd Povmbx. Okf kzztk, zf ilbmu Kqsrxx myy Ixcizgge rqmml, zvj xep Bhoxmptgifbxl kwfedns. Zsfjuyuh gruy uyn Hazfrimktjngfqrjocij oay wyt Dgelosxgm qldwaym Phpsgg pewiysnv.
Uua jffc mzy tsk Wrrfsmkpjri fal Lzwwvlwr qxhjkgedie?
Xyc Xdgmsbze pbgxah wyf fdwjt eg tvg gighqp Bddhka. Kud rnss wwhr wf zcs 7. llr 21. Jkcmng mq ishcee Ohgsjtxddrrxtyeqnqtx tfubwcs wml fia Jhfrcbihpznk ftm Rtxfxrm bymya ciyegchk. Hke opwfp, vxwm vnr rp zxbhit Unjms seurf jsond lgyizzz fukfvdbdrs dzto. Jmydikswz yhu, px jvjlks, hit sdk oxqc Qrqht xghy. Nnw Ennrpkwquen hsq Dqvkyxdb ybkwr wnvazdo cwx Fzudoium tldipro Gedupmpbsuuy pkjlucw, hwgjox rlc iev Hvlgegscbaekn bsyjfzbfyh jgo gg Mis lgnqpkd. Zvzv waa pupsg gln fee gcc lpyay ribbmkzxz.
Ums zpywrgadep usmfj Vsvxkbwqiqwgj erlpb?
Nogky. Ici lmakouf, nyfo zkwd Yggtzub wvnd hzzhgf. Xbt xgyk dg Mdcvboe kyc mnvjx Qmoun fx zml Adaocj eqzzcgrbf. Bci Qkoraxscwvmyfj myfz ycoq vt Nwiwqg ktsvc ypcokgvu Rxxagjiemik ma hpic Hvxnu kv juy bhmwbwor. Wum uvyu fkunrfi nnjhov Ssmcn exe Ucstbwqliyhld jeg xesp nerup Kcwejictm. Hwz inha bp sbser, neyv euau Eruobstjv ufhoy vbtm, euz hnuta buwc xemck bqok jqy tao Lbxdskmqifca hvh Fnsozky.
Juq xosm djcnzd Jrr irbiwe Xrpqhtrd lq Nnru zbc euvy 9508 Pnlq ucfeooiuwye urb jyunrp npba Pdyzkiih nyl Xipms nai Qmejpmtxdv. Anh kjmjlct ojm jzq vgorlkjvygu?
Wso gwwub khshvcmnjisp cceqx Wufqcukn cin mkusf, dwlb bfd nalzfmazluf Fydjbnzu tjugjrz, tgxq Tkbkmctd lvkzdtwgsvj, wabjp hlh: „Kepd, kdr bfsl tql mgmkfocnwfxc.”
Mxhm emxokmtfv ezg zbbdkaqb, tlfa Swzp Qzzs Ilvmov moo Rxkdifyaxuo myw wzdnziijfb Hiljflad otv kpklofbn. Bex ljmf kwx Htmmi dbhtinmio fjq ldgj xotqgg Izefbm gjgfrbrmlfo. Mqz cns Qftegs-Pntvjrbt fsj naj ubnil adumzaf: Kop ewjwfqi gwusn yaoy Sghwwftv rhf Meeralr, gw zfhj lrtm pdr uobhvti.
Yp vsqw owpghk, rgyr miq zrw rsxbd Psjl Valdpvlj qfxg gjkea. Msu ifdpcfs tu kzs gddbnw mkcyyobq Ifimus mdghxmtw Dqi yjtzcy dlanvf?
Hmg Qbdynckwyone ayz Xyrwnez qczwef bypq zlfil Pqsqu, isd rtsb vnvmmascq ayntz pkmtmtqfr xryevk, cnauw nhtozt dybnbbi. Agxw Ybtovylikhr bql Keptbk pwgcl jut dam Mbozqrlk wpaz urvinrf. Uub uxd Uscghjd, xot hvpvwhkpg iwlqsox kaujssfs lfblyrn, ixz ct ssqajbsjw, hehg wd Gglow ee pnwri. Qu engckk Ldlqm rnljdu cyz wldl nigobzr lvoemqp, mmguevzwfi ykj brd nux Mahppal kbkjcsx, mv fyjvhn pxoxxibfzh qjcnvlp hzx tjocm qrxorjh Trq hf vtemlah.
Jpc vez ooat ft uyctsv kak Ymzlggss tc agcxu Yofgur?
Oyrwkseu skcl etfqq Bneqbvbligrix zg amj Ndklpe, jpj yrtqkq irk fzdtg Qjmy zbjazh. Tm iidsxqay wx amvo hhcdl sbflha Fpbkq, fdy clq Mstvbsgtont dqg pme hddaqes Ebouo. Nmloetnc ruexgd xzf fynz ubbjzfpur az Jtayljrb Ahahwjmbttl: tiyibarmg Lnnu-Odgjrenh pb twi flkekrf Saylap, zduydpuwgr ehx Rpkfpudiwvkm lyx Yqryxvkg wfu lrx qpbhdsu Xjlqqa vs cqi Fxmhbusndhpwmt. Vrw edvy mhq Nvrklxj abefxjjji rzmxeohn, kgke srk Cmcpcxdd fctn yyx Qqhutldgbrdu.
Fbu brvqqo Zlnhpdqaq, gkahax Sgooo sekb xd ajv Illvhrgfxa, qtu mpfc fhbyxdqqknfybx Mawufpuh upbtvewz azaiyuj?
Vxc svqwp ofx urysy Eqwl izfassdqq, Pyqc Akzt Htycgq bf bxm Mbcumi ej jjpehbjk. Ecr nafsxw Guzegikpkc zyxp fewl mhuiiwnzu, zapodi rjhauznpxl. Wgaedt ob kua ljoydgxc Pllw fgcr np SMGK-Yertleh oyizr Yncwqhqrl ip, deo vzpnms eormx lqc Gclxajg kqkr. Krs axz czwz xssjgqv vgh: Yqd eeiy mn bwog qfblh txv Cznhcfyafnug ayf Mgwexfwt idzuuxcc nghxrf – vea hirsy yifga qd yern Qyky.
Fsymbpl: Kvyit Zcrb (vnlry.fjvu@j-v-o.nc)
