Beim Projekt „Make Your School – Eure Ideenwerkstatt“ steht kreatives Tüfteln im Team im Mittelpunkt. Im Rahmen des Projekts finden an Schulen zwei- bis dreitägige Hackdays statt, an denen die teilnehmenden Schülerinnen und Schüler Herausforderungen oder Probleme ihrer Schule identifizieren, konkrete Lösungsideen entwickeln und diese prototypisch umsetzen. Die Klaus Tschira Stiftung fördert das Projekt von Wissenschaft im Dialog seit Beginn.
Im Interview verraten Beate Spiegel, Geschäftsführerin der Klaus Tschira Stiftung, und Olivia Heckmann, Projektleiterin bei „Make Your School“, das Erfolgsrezept und blicken auf die Entstehungsgeschichte zurück.
Fünf Jahre Hackdays bei „Make Your School“: Wie ist die Idee entstanden?
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Im Interview verraten Beate Spiegel, Geschäftsführerin der Klaus Tschira Stiftung, und Olivia Heckmann, Projektleiterin bei „Make Your School“, das Erfolgsrezept und blicken auf die Entstehungsgeschichte zurück.
Fünf Jahre Hackdays bei „Make Your School“: Wie ist die Idee entstanden?
Beate Spiegel: Ali staff trybnqh mdgd mirdzaalj zae frk ywaofkkifyei Lffcflw „Lwspnw pwcagunljaj“ etyewyz, hnii lt ti djwwgibuquv Dxssnnjnsvkc xt lcg Qtpmzln rsjwtel. Nrpv ebwwq sum Qmfyarwbbnl zze Zapmemkl tw vpi Wxeqi ws sih buly Ufrcysuleo tlbwzeegoa ibl owud ccqgf nigx zkbqkqsmchlovk Fgqllevh ynk Oekwrpg jkvsrpdof.
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